Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:02 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:12 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:39 pm
Posts: 254
Location: United States
I am wondering what spacing is used from the edge of the nut to the High E and edge to Low E. Please chime in with your prefered dimensions. I am using 0.1" for the high E and 0.115" for the low E.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:44 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:42 pm
Posts: 4217
Location: Buffalo, NY
First name: Robert
Last Name: Cefalu
City: Buffalo
State: NY
Zip/Postal Code: 14217
Country: US
That's right around where I am too. +- a few thou.

_________________
Beautiful and unusual tone woods at a reasonable price.
http://www.rctonewoods.com/RCT_Store
The Zootman
1109 Military Rd.
Kenmore, NY 14217
(716) 874-1498


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:57 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Posts: 2749
Location: Netherlands
about the same here. 2.5mm for the high E, 3mm for the low E, give or take.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:29 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:19 am
Posts: 1534
Location: United States
First name: Nelson
Last Name: Palen
Not to derail the nut here but along the same "lines", how about saddle string spacing. Do you try to keep your E strings parallel to the sides of the fretboard.
Nelson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:45 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:36 am
Posts: 1595
State: ON
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
3-3.5mm for me.

Josh

_________________
Josh House

Canadian Luthier Supply
http://www.canadianluthiersupply.com
https://www.facebook.com/canadianluthiersupply?ref=hl
House Guitars - Custom Built Acoustic Instruments.
http://www.houseguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:04 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:39 pm
Posts: 254
Location: United States
I should have clarifed this my measurement is to the edge of the string not to the center of the string.
Center would be .106" high E and .142" low E.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:21 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:16 am
Posts: 2244
Location: United States
First name: michael
Last Name: mcclain
City: pendleton
State: sc
Zip/Postal Code: 29670
Status: Professional
nelson

regarding your question on parallelism, i design so the fretboard/neck profile is consistent with the nut/bridge string spacing, thus keeping the e's parallel to the edge of the fingerboard.

michael mcclain


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:10 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Posts: 2749
Location: Netherlands
What Michael said. My fretboard taper follows the string lines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:30 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:19 am
Posts: 1534
Location: United States
First name: Nelson
Last Name: Palen
It sounds logical to keep the strings parallel but I've received a request to keep the saddle string spacing narrower to avoid having a string slip off the edge of the frets when bending.
Nelson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:35 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:16 am
Posts: 2244
Location: United States
First name: michael
Last Name: mcclain
City: pendleton
State: sc
Zip/Postal Code: 29670
Status: Professional
nelson

if that is what the client wants, and you have explained and he clearly understands and accepts, preferably in writing on your work order, that he will have reduced space available for his fingers/picks(s) between the strings and is happy to live with that, and you are happy giving it to him, where is the problem?crazymanmichael38452.5310300926


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:48 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:34 am
Posts: 1906
Location: United States
I too ask the client, then look to see if what they want is feasable. Too close to the edge and the customer will be back wanting a new nut. Too far in and you have to have some skinny fingers. I use Stewmac's Spacng ruler. Set the two outer distances and then use the ruler to get the inner ones...works great!

_________________
Dave Bland

remember...

"If it doesn't play in tune...it's just pretty wood"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:26 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:39 pm
Posts: 254
Location: United States
Dave my question is what do you use for the outer spacing the rest is fairly easy.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:40 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:34 am
Posts: 1906
Location: United States
Keith, you mean the distance from the string to the edge of the fretboard? My eye, experience mostly from 35 years of playing and what I like. I think I read somewhere that the hi-e should be no more than an eighth of an inch and the low-e less since players and gravity tend to pull down toward hi-e.

Nice to see ya around...hows Englewood treating you!

_________________
Dave Bland

remember...

"If it doesn't play in tune...it's just pretty wood"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:25 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:16 am
Posts: 2244
Location: United States
First name: michael
Last Name: mcclain
City: pendleton
State: sc
Zip/Postal Code: 29670
Status: Professional
Dave

I agree, that spacing rule S-M came out with a while back is much easier than dividers and also gives proportional spacing. Much better than any of the previous spacing rules on the market. Saves a lot of time and is more accurate to boot. I wonder if it's patented. I've never looked to see!

Michael McClaincrazymanmichael38452.6847685185


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:08 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:34 am
Posts: 1906
Location: United States
Probably not ...but if it is...hey...who's gonna sue ya SM?...naaa...Dave-SKG38452.714525463

_________________
Dave Bland

remember...

"If it doesn't play in tune...it's just pretty wood"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:15 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:39 pm
Posts: 254
Location: United States
[QUOTE=Dave-SKG] Keith, you mean the distance from the string to the edge of the fretboard? My eye, experience mostly from 35 years of playing and what I like. I think I read somewhere that the hi-e should be no more than an eighth of an inch and the low-e less since players and gravity tend to pull down toward hi-e.

Nice to see ya around...hows Englewood treating you![/QUOTE]

Yes I too have the SM gauge but the starting point is your "eye","Experience", and "35 years of playing" thats the part I need. Not in Englewood until the end of summer I'll give you a shout when I get there. Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:33 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:42 pm
Posts: 4217
Location: Buffalo, NY
First name: Robert
Last Name: Cefalu
City: Buffalo
State: NY
Zip/Postal Code: 14217
Country: US
[QUOTE=npalen] It sounds logical to keep the strings parallel but I've received a request to keep the saddle string spacing narrower to avoid having a string slip off the edge of the frets when bending.
Nelson
[/QUOTE]
Nelson I have done this by making the fingerboard and the neck about .030 or so wider on each side at the neck joint and continuing to the end of the fretboard leaving the string spacing the same. This gives a little more clearance from the edge of the fretboard as you progress up the neck.

_________________
Beautiful and unusual tone woods at a reasonable price.
http://www.rctonewoods.com/RCT_Store
The Zootman
1109 Military Rd.
Kenmore, NY 14217
(716) 874-1498


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com